Good question-is the Bible "as violent" as the Quran/Hadith?

[Draft: Oct 4/2004]
I got this sincere question: Hi Glenn;

I have a question and it's so important to me.. I was a muslim, when I read The Bible and studied on it I decided to be a Christian but I have some serious problems with it. I write in a muslim forum, I was arguing with muslims about Bible, Quran and stuff..They always show me some verses in Torah and They say Bible is as violent is Quran and hadith...and Some claims God of the Bible is as arbitrary as Allah(God of quran)

Anyway, Arent't these verses so disturbing?

"Dt 20:14 As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves. And you may use the plunder the LORD your God gives you from your enemies. Dt 20:15 This is how you are to treat all the cities that are at a distance from you and do not belong to the nations nearby."

And some atheists claim that Moses uses "God" for his own needs saying you may take women, everything from the enemy...

So what can we say about these verses?

Thank you.

I don't really want to get into the question of 'how violent' the Quran/Hadith are, but I will lay out some of the more significant (IMO) differences between my general understanding of traditional Islamic views on this matter. [the atheist assertion is simply that--an ungrounded accusation/slander. It is purely speculative, and would require some evidence that Moses was able, and actually DID, pull the wool over 1.2M Israelites. The issue is more complicated than that, of course, but I cannot address such speculation here. I want to focus in this little piece on the Muslim claim.] This warfare rule for 'when you are attacked by neighbors' is NOTHING LIKE some general ethic that allows one to hide and ambush caravans for their goods, without ANY provocation or without ANY hostile intent. And is very distant from using conquest to 'convert' a nation to some religion...

I have hurried this response, and not been able to adduce the relevant passage from the Quran and Hadith, so I will have to rely upon your background in Islam to recognize the several contrasts between this position and that of 'traditional' Islam.

There is a much more detailed, in-depth analysis of this Deut issue now, at Why was Israel instructed about fighting OUTSIDE the land? .

I hope this helps some, friend... Sorry so brief & hurried, Glenn Miller (Oct/2004)
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